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Rival Night · Dec 11, 2010, 06:42 PM // 18:42

hello there
my main character is warrior
just finished sorting out my 3 necro heroes for discord
my monk hero and 2 ele fire heros

the thing is, with discord it requires a hex, so is it a good idea to go w/n and just cast MoP on a target and call it?

also ive seen people link me builds for FoW and DoA
is it just me or are warriors getting a bit useless?

heres my theory why (before you all go nuts)

few times ive been told "we dont take warriors"
also everytime i get a build linked to me i practically get turned into an ele or a rit

its like people dont even want warriors in the group anymore and when they do they use a build with hardly any warrior skills

please feel free to correct me if im wrong
i have also only been a gw player since the summer so my theorys may be way off

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 11, 2010, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Rival Night

hello there
my main character is warrior
just finished sorting out my 3 necro heroes for discord
my monk hero and 2 ele fire heros

the thing is, with discord it requires a hex, so is it a good idea to go w/n and just cast MoP on a target and call it?

Discord teams are actually better used by casters, with an Assassin's Promise caller bar. As a physical, if you want to run 3 necros, maybe consider a Sabway team.

Warriors may not be in demand in DoA pugging, but there's a lot more to the game than that. An organized DoA group can get good use out of a warrior similar to the FoWsc 100b. And, of course, you can just 100b for FoWsc...

Olle · Dec 11, 2010, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Warriors endurance>Sneak Attack>Asuran Scan>power Attack >w/e u want =ALOT of dmg and a great DPS,PLUS a cheap hex and condition, that helps both you and your team!

fenshadow · Dec 11, 2010, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Rival Night

the thing is, with discord it requires a hex, so is it a good idea to go w/n and just cast MoP on a target and call it?

You'll quickly run out of energy that way and most likely induce scatter. As posted earlier, Warrior's Endurance and Asura Scan would be a much better combination.

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Originally Posted by Rival Night

also ive seen people link me builds for FoW and DoA
is it just me or are warriors getting a bit useless?

Hardly. You have to understand that while physicals do pretty reasonable damage on their own, their damage soars when they receive various performance enhancing buffs. Unfortunately, this often brings team builds to a fork - buff the physicals or buff/bring more of the damage dealing casters. Various builds go either way.

In that vein, instead of Discordway I would suggest you roll with something like this (as an example) or, as suggested above, Sabway. Buff yourself over the top and then run rampant, you'll see a big difference.

On the subject of the team builds you've encountered, you have to understand that those were primarily designed for PuGs. The goal of most PuG builds is success, and those builds that have been linked to you have a pretty moderate success rate. Unfortunately, that success comes with the price of conforming to those builds - however, I've seen/heard that Warrior DwGing works reasonably well, so it's not like you technically can't do it. Which, honestly, is way more than can be said for various such builds for other classes in the past.

If you have a friend to go with you (e.g. you're not interested in Cave farming or something) you can easily clear FoW. DoA may take a bit more effort, but it's doable as well. Good luck to you.

loopysnoopy · Dec 11, 2010, 11:31 PM // 23:31

I think in some way with the way the meta game and all the skill buffs and de-buff Warriors are just out of favor. Casters are called in to play for situations where a warrior would of been and unless your willing to go War/sin even then its hard to party up.

I myself is a primary Warrior and I can not party in UW or Doa and many other dungeons usally if I do manage to get a party im a dolyack tank for them, 1 skill I absulutly hate is a doly tank but I suppose thats nealy what people expect now shame as well I found my Warrior fun in UW and managed to complete it with Dhuum

Doa is my last dungeon to do but i think im just gunna swap to my mes or my imba
I personly have had enough of asking around.

But good luck in your endevor in gaining a party for your Warrior

Infectious · Dec 12, 2010, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Assassins promise - Enduring Toxin - You move like a Dwarf - Pain invertor - sprint - res - summon vanguard/fire dijin/ice imp - iron palm
12 str 12 deadly arts

Olle · Dec 12, 2010, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Infectious

Assassins promise - Enduring Toxin - You move like a Dwarf - Pain invertor - sprint - res - summon vanguard/fire dijin/ice imp - iron palm
12 str 12 deadly arts

Thats 20 energy just to cast the needed hex/cond PLUS AP
as i posted earlier, ive played discord since it came out with my war, and ive always runned my own build:

warriors endurance = epic Emanagement, and switching with zealous/vamp is fun.

Sneak attack =blind, blind in pve is amazing, it protects you, and your mid-backline
and with discord, a cheap, great condition, that can be spammed.

Asuran scan= makes me deal 75% more damage!!! plus a cheap hex that just helps me!

Powerattack=36 dmg+75% + other mods =win.

Executioner's Strike= 36 dmg+75% + other mods=WIN

Dismember= deep wound is always nice,helps you and the team.

Disrupting chop = a rupt helps u take out those SH,SF,MS and other BS-OP boss skills.

Drunken master= +33% IAS&IMS= sooo good for a warrior! this requiers ale, but since im working on drunkard, this also helps that since the recharge is 60 sec.
^can be switched for FGJ, SY, w/e you want!
got any questions? Pm <ign

LifeInfusion · Dec 12, 2010, 09:56 PM // 21:56

What I run
Hero 1A: N/Mo Barbs smite (SoH, Smite hex, Blood bond, Spoil Victor (micro on healers), Foul Feast, Mark of Fury, Reversal of Damage, strip enchantment) <-- run in condition heavy (You can swap elite to Order of the Vampire with 2-3 physicals)
Hero 1B: Mo/ smite support (Empathic removal, SoH, Smite Hex, Smite condition, Reversal of damage, Castigation Sig, Smiter's Boon, Divine Healing) <-- run in hex heavy areas
Hero 2: Rt/ SoS splinter support (SoS, Bloodsong, Painful Bond, Spirit Siphon, Splinter Weapon, Mend Body & Soul, Protective was Kaolai/Spirit Light, Flesh of My Flesh)
Hero 3: Me/Mo Panic Caster shutdown (Panic, Power Spike, Unnatural Signet, Mistrust, Drain enchant, Power drain, Resurrection Chant)

Warrior with SY doesn't need a minion bomber for mitigation as much. (Prot spirit is useless with SY up, unless you get hit with armor ignoring spam and such, which doesn't happen in FoW. You see SC teams run Seed of Life and Vigorous Spirit to counter Spiteful Spirit.)

Just slot SoH + splinter weapon and you're good to go.

Warrior SY spam:
FGJ, Enraging charge, Dragon slash, SY!, Whirlwind attack, Asuran Scan, Flail, Brawling Headbutt/Body Blow/etc.

Warrior 100B:
FGJ, Enraging Charge, 100B, Whirlwind Attack, SY!, Asuran Scan, Lion's comfort,Flail

Warrior's Endurance:
WE, Burst of Aggression/Flail, SY!, Power attack, Furious Axe/Whirlwind attack, cyclone axe, Dismember, Asuran scan

FoW is pretty forgiving and so is DoA (with Panic). By the way, FoWSC uses 2 100B warriors, albeit with Shadow steps so that aggro doesn't break. (http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_Fo...Blades_Warrior)